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  1. #1
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    My 2 cents........I just started biking about 1 month ago....I bought a carbon WSD (women specific design) Trek, and, well, I JUST LOVE IT!!!! I can fly on this bike.....I love speed. The farthest I have gone is 8 miles (long story) but at one point I was going 18 miles an hour, and didn't realize it!

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    I have been reading that sometimes carbon can crack, espec. in an accident, whereas steel frames may be more repairable and last longer. I am sure different frame materials all have their pros and cons. I really can't speak from first hand experience yet, but I hope to ride my new Rivendell through the countryside here for MANY years, and I don't plan on racing, so steel was a nice choice for me.
    If one is not racing, weight is less important and should be balanced with other factors. Are you planning to tour? (long distances with camping/backpacking type loads) Mostly level riding? Going to be competing/racing? Have to carry your bike upstairs a lot? etc...

    There was a bike weight discussion recently on a Rivendell (steel) bike list...someone had said: "From my reading, more riders are worried about taking grams off their bikes instead of pounds off their bodies and not to interested in the ride itself."

    Now, when I was first describing and then showing my beautiful new Rivendell Rambouillet to my bike riding older brother recently, he kept asking how much it weighed, talking about how much his bike weighs, how much titanium and carbon and steel bikes weigh, how maybe I should have gotten a lighter carbon bike....etc etc. Sheesh! He doesn't even race. I had to really REFRAIN from suggesting that if he GOT on his bike more often and lost even just 5 of the 50 extra pounds he needs to lose to avoid his sky-high cholesterol heart attack waiting to happen any day now, he wouldn't have to worry at all about how much his bike OR my bike weighs! All this obsession he had about one or two pounds of bike...and I had just wanted to talk about the BIKE!
    Made me curious though, and later on I actually balanced on my bathroom scale holding up my bike and WEIGHED my new 54cm Rambouillet with relatively big 700x37c tires (including the small saddlebag full of flat-fixing tube, tools, blinkie, and cable/lock that I usually ride with)....total 27 pounds. Probably 25 lbs without saddlebag and tools. Not sure I have any actual use for that information though. Maybe I will think of one some day while I'm riding a country road past some beautiful sunny farm field with the wind in my face listening to the crickets.
    Last edited by BleeckerSt_Girl; 08-26-2006 at 07:45 AM.
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    I became more concerned with the weight of my bike when I started riding really long rides. If I'm doing a ride that's going to take me twenty hours to complete and a lighter bike will shave an hour or two off that time - it's important to me.

    At the same time I want a bike that I can trust. I just have an inherent distrust of carbon fiber. I know I would always worry that if I took some of these bumpy descents too fast, that something would break. I know I would not allow myself to descend as fast as I do on steel. Nothing anyone could say, would cause to lose that distrust. Right or wrong, my gut says, this could break. So my new bike is going to be steel.

    And yes, I've already shed weight off me.

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    I have two bikes- a steel one with carbon forks and an all carbon one.

    Yes, the steel bike is 5lbs heavier than my carbon one, and it has a different gearing on it. If I am going to do steep steep hills, I'd probably use the steel bike mostly because of the gearing as I have mountain bike gearing in the rear.

    However, I find that I prefer my carbon bike for most of my rides. It's very comfortable and very fast if I want to zip down the hills. I also have found that I recover more quickly after going up hills.

    IF you really want to get the full scoop, I Googled this subject and found an interesting article that explains every bike part and what it does. It also describes the different types of frames and how they are made. Excellent for learning terminology and understanding bike design!

    Google: Advantage of carbon fiber road bikes.
    Article I found: Racing bicycles-Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Goddess
    IF you really want to get the full scoop, I Googled this subject and found an interesting article that explains every bike part and what it does. It also describes the different types of frames and how they are made. Excellent for learning terminology and understanding bike design!

    Google: Advantage of carbon fiber road bikes.
    Article I found: Racing bicycles-Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
    In all fairness, one should also perhaps Google "Advantage of steel frame road bikes", etc.... or maybe read:
    http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/htm...materials.html
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    Googling

    Ah- in the article I found, the author talks about every kind of frame- from titanium, aluminum, carbon, steel, you name it. He covers the advantages of each which is why I suggested this particular site. He also does bike terminology with diagrams and explanations for the terms. Quite useful if you are new to this type of language.
    Nancy

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    Nancy, sounds interesting- do you have an actual link to it? Thanks!
    Lisa
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