[QUOTE=Grog]BikerZ is in the Bay Area, CA, and MDHillSlug is in Maryland. I don't think the latter will have to do any kind of climbing like the former, even if there are hills in Maryland.

MDHillSlug,

I'm not sure where you are but don't discount your hills in Md. If you are on the eastern shore , yes, they probably are "liitle bumps" but if you're west of I 81 there are some hellatious climbs, in Garret County, Frostburg, US 40 between Cumberland MD and Hancock. Ride on any route in that area except the C&O canal and then say its flat!

I've driven through there a lot and done some riding and the climbs in CO. are a lot easier!