Veronica wrote "I think it depends on the men. Most of the guys in my local club are great - very supportive, go out of their way to make sure that everyone, including other non club riders, are safe - both on trails and on the road. I love to ride with them, because my riding always goes up a notch or two. (Plus they have great legs!)"

True, it takes your riding up a notch to keep up with guys!

"I see the problem more with guys and chicks riding by themselves. It's like they get into their own little world and it's all about them. They don't wave when you pass in opposite directions, they don't say anything when they pass you from behind. That one really bothers me. How hard is it to say, "On your left.""

What's with that? Why so many grumpy bikers? Say "hi", nod, wave, do sumthin' friendly! If you can't spare a breath to say "howdy" you should be home in front of the TV not riding ;-)

"Back to Gabriell's question. I always figured that descenders had the right of way - it's a control issue. The climber can just about always get out of the way a lot easier than the descender. "

Uh, I should know this, what's the rule driving? Going downhill, narrow road, car driving uphill, who has right of way?