Hip angles and max thrust

[mimitabby]

I finally made it to the vvfa(very, very far away)bs to address these fitting issues.

Apparently my seat was too far forward and my handlebars were too low.

Needless to say, the adjustments created new and worse problems. Now my hamstrings and calves are straining to push and pull what I'm sure my quads did a better job of, and even more weight ends up in my hands--AND crotch. If I try to bend my arms at all, the muscle next to the spine in my lower back on the left side hurts so sharp I can't breathe (believe me, I'll tough through any pain. But breathing is necessary). I just feel like I'm braced against this thing. 'Technically' it's supposed to fit.

Question: is the front wheel hub supposed to be blocked from view when holding a) brake hoods, or, b) next to the top of the stem? The guy who fitted me said brake hoods--but with the old clunker bike, it's next to the stem.

Guess which bike DOESN'T hurt me? Clunker 10-speed from the 70s. I can completely give everything I have on that thing (not that it gets me anywhere fast) and I feel light, balanced. I use the handlebars to PULL, I can crouch down as low as I like with a flat painless back. Even after agony on the new bike. But according to newfound fitting logic, old bike is too small for me.

I'm 5'5" with a short torso and the new bike is 54cm. Old bike is 52cm.

New bike is supposed to fit! What is wrong here?

wow! you need to call those idiots and tell them that you feel worse, not better! (let your fingers do the walking!) tell them what you just told us.
I won't pretend to understand what your problem is; but i'll tell you this;
if you paid for the bike, they need to make it right. if you paid for the fit
you need to be able to go back in until you are comfy on that bike!

[run it, ride it]

That's it--I've had it with the new bike. Work today was AGONY after the commute there, and after the commute home I can barely sit up.

My crotch is numb, my hands aching, my back screaming in pain.

I didn't pay for the fit. I ASKED for the fit when I FIRST bought the thing and they said it was fine. I asked for a more intensive fit when I went back and after their tweaking (which they said would make things much better) I'm wondering if this is something like that story where the guy complains about his cat being too loud and the doctor tells him to get more and more animals until the original problem doesn't seem that bad compared to the 'remedy.'

I just plain can't reach the handlebars! I don't care what they tell me about where I should and shouldn't see the wheel hub; if I'm a freak of nature so be it.

I'm not sure what they can do for me at this point. I doubt they'll take back the frame after this much use. If I go back, they'll start talking dubiously about shortening the stem on the handlebars. They already think I'm a nutcase for wanting them closer.