I used to hate low-cut shorts till I got my belly button pierced- now I love them! They have to be just right, though, to still keep my belly contained. I HATE that on jeans, too, and I've ALWAYS had a problem with the waist being too high since I am 5"2". I'm starting to hate it the way bike shorts go way up the back, too, when I used to like that.

But even if you don't have sizing issues, it's still nearly impossible to find the right pair, and when you do they are either wicked expensive or the manufacturer promptly changes them, or both.

I have three pairs of old Primals, with the old quilty-style chamois (if you look at my review on the Sugoi RS Flex shorts, my current beloved, you can see a photo of the Primal chamois) which are about 6 years old, but they are still my first choice as backups. I can't believe how long they've lasted, either, without the elastic or fabric going bad like it does with old swimsuits.

Well, good luck with the hunt.

Nanci