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  1. #46
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    Restrec has a right to his-I mean- her opinion. Anybody can make an a** of him/her self - it is a constitutional right. Anyway, you can just put Restrec on your ignore list.

    Velogirl, Restrec might ALSO be Pereiro in disguise.

    But, back to Landis - they said the testosterone came from a source OUTSIDE of his own body (his alter ego - the plant). The beer alibi is baloney - I did a search and found out that he would have to ingest an enormous amount of booze and he certainly did not ride like a man with a hangover.

    There are still questions. This is what Wadler said in a CBS interview:

    "Testosterone can build muscle and improve recovery time when used over a period of several weeks, Wadler told The Associated Press. But if Landis had been a user, his earlier urine tests during the tour would have been affected, he said.

    "So something's missing here," Wadler said. "It just doesn't add up."


    Will we find out that there is a method to mask the T/E ratio and it failed during the urine test in question?

    In any case, I can't argue with science. In fact, I still think that O.J. did it!
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  2. #47
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    velogirl "Maybe RESTREC is really Greg Lemond -- another sweet, cheery Landis fan who has nothing positive to say!"

    nah, because if RESTREC was really Greg s/he'd be whineing "if I had Floyds T/E ratio *I* could have won the tour 5 times, and if my team had not lied to me, and and .... I could have been a contender, Stellaaaaaa...."

    Let's be nice, give a newbie a break, not everyone finds the getting to know you thread right away as required by TE law

    Welcome to TE RESTREC and when you get a chance surf on over to the getting to know you thread.

    And Dogmama's right, you can't argue with science, you can only do further research. I think OJ did it, Global Warming and evolution are real, the earth revolves around the sun.

    But I still think the earth is flat and if we ride far enough we'll get to the edge and fall off.
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  3. #48
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    I think that if they strip Landis of his title, they should give the yellow jersey to the guy who came in last. He's probably the only one who wasn't doing drugs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420
    But I still think the earth is flat and if we ride far enough we'll get to the edge and fall off.
    I sometimes wish it were flatter in my part of the world.

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    I think that if they strip Landis of his title, they should give the yellow jersey to the guy who came in last. He's probably the only one who wasn't doing drugs...
    LMAO! Awesome.

    Hey, since my source of cynicism about Floyd is that he won 4 major tours this year, can anyone educate me on who in the past has done something similar? I haven't followed cycling long enough to know if it's been done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelownagirl
    I sometimes wish it were flatter in my part of the world.
    No kidding! I visited friends in Nelson, BC a few years ago. They were solidly into riding, (and racing) bikes. One of them rode 55km one day and we drove up and picked her up. We passed her as she was going up this unbelievable hill! Of course, they were all huge compared to our Ozarks. Whenever I see someone on a biking forum from BC I just have to shake my head in amazement! Oh, yeah, and bears? I've heard stories about passing them on the roads, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by betagirl
    LMAO! Awesome.

    Hey, since my source of cynicism about Floyd is that he won 4 major tours this year, can anyone educate me on who in the past has done something similar? I haven't followed cycling long enough to know if it's been done.
    I'll have to look into it for specifics, but I know that Eddy Merkyx used to do some pretty amazing stuff - he won all 3 jerseys in the TDF once - yellow, green and polka dot. He also used to race a full season and not only do well in the spring classics, then go onto the big tours. Fausto Coppi did the double (TDF and Giro), I think, several times even with a big break in his career because of WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelownagirl
    I think that if they strip Landis of his title, they should give the yellow jersey to the guy who came in last. He's probably the only one who wasn't doing drugs...


    The sad thing is that is probably more true that most of the professional cycling world is willing to admit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uforgot
    No kidding! I visited friends in Nelson, BC a few years ago. They were solidly into riding, (and racing) bikes. One of them rode 55km one day and we drove up and picked her up. We passed her as she was going up this unbelievable hill! Of course, they were all huge compared to our Ozarks. Whenever I see someone on a biking forum from BC I just have to shake my head in amazement! Oh, yeah, and bears? I've heard stories about passing them on the roads, too!
    My toughest riding day ever was mountain biking in Rossland, which is close to Nelson. 17 km and I was dead...

    Luckily, Kelowna isn't as steep hilly as the Nelson area. Ours are _slightly_ more rolling and we do have some flat sections in the valley if I am too bagged to ride hills. I did go down an 18% grade yesterday though. I was _so_ happy to find that there was another, less steep way back up.

 

 

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