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  1. #1
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    I don't like a world where *everybody* cheats ...
    ... but in that subculture of the world, it's not considered cheating. (THat's one reason people can deny "cheating" with a straight face, could easily say "I won because of my training" and be telling the truth... ) Sorta like the way in some cultures, bribery is simply an essential part of the culture. No, it's not nice, it's not ideal. It is REAL.
    Do you think that college athletes study hard to get those grades in those Division I schools? Drop in and find out. Heck, I was a walk-on non-scorer on a Division II swim team and I automatically got student jobs at the pool. I *know* the breaks some of the football guys got - again, this wasn't even the "big time."
    So, if the reason for not thinking he's guilty is "it doesn't make sense for him to do that" - I would have to beg to differ. It's a team sport; you don't want to let down your team. All you have to do is not ask too many hard questions! It's not like you have to make some great decision to cross the line... you'd have to make all kinds of repeated decisions ... oh, and prob'ly lose races... to keep getting on the other side of the line. And it woulnd't be considered being a noble individual ... nobody would tell you "you're doing the right thing." To them, it's not cheating, it's what you do to be a better rider.

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    so from what i gather from this thread is....

    A) test results are in

    B) no one knows for sure this is an "official" result

    am i following this right?

    from what FL and his lawyers said they knew that "B" was going to come in with the same results. the problem i'm having is that it was a synthetic testosterone found. if it was high and everything was natural, then i would have an easier time beliving he is innocent.

    maybe he is a plant or just an alien from another world.....
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    If he is a plant, somebody needs to trim his ears.

    I thought the whole point of the second test taking such a long time was that they were checking for exogenous testosterone.
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    Sad day for cycling

    For what it's worth....
    I don't think Floyd is a cheat.
    I don't think he's a "regular" cheater.
    If he were, I think previous tests would have shown it, and they did not. Subsequent tests do not show cheating. It all hinges on 1 test done after Stage 17.
    I think he was distraught over bonking on Stage 16. Terribly distraught, feeling like he just blew the Tour, something he worked soooo hard for.
    Man, that has got to hurt.
    So....Dr. Feel Good comes along and says..."Floyd, my man. I can fix that. Wear this little patch on your privates and it'll help you recover. Totally natural (from plants???). No need to do anything. Show up on drug tests??? Nah...not to worry. And you can honestly say you never "ingested" anything."
    So Floyd, being the good soldier he is, does as he's told and POW! What a stunning comeback in Stage 17! Epic, dude.
    ...and maybe because he takes cortisone, or thyroid meds, or because he had that shot and a beer, it DOES show up in his drug test....it's amplified or something.
    And now he blew the Tour...everything he's worked so hard for goes up in a puff of smoke.
    Man, that's got to hurt.
    Just my theory anyway......

 

 

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