Knotted, my SO found my Gunnar frame on EBay - for $450 - then built it up himself with Campy, Thomson, Chris King - and the handmade pink wheels! It probably rounds up to around 2 grand, but there are other components that are good, that aren't as pricey as some of those.... just a thought... (Of course, if I lived in a place where someone actually built beautiful bikes - I'd probably save my money and go there too!)