First time to Napa - favorite 40 miles?

[SadieKate]

Is your out and back to the Lake on Conn Valley?

After Pope Valley, we normally take White Cottage to Deer Park. So, you're taking Howell Mtn right at the top from Angwin? I don't know that I've ever been in Angwin proper. Any water and elephants in Angwin so we wouldn't have to stop in Pope Valley? I wonder if anything is open on Sundays.

The Krebs map shows a picnic area and restrooms at the southeast corner of the Lake which I think I remember. There is no icon for water. If we take Howell Mtn we could have no water all the way from Pope Valley to Moskowite Corner. Maybe we could find something on the Silverado Trail between Howell and 128, or just go into St. Helena.

[maillotpois]

Yeah, it appears to be Conn Valley. And I do not think there are restrooms there. There's a boat launch at the other side of the lake that does have restrooms.

We go over White Cottage, but continue straight across Deer Park (careful! Traffic!) onto Howell Mtn. So I haven't been into Angwyn either. There is a school there which has water fountains. Other than that I am no help.

FUN descent if you go the other way (UP "old" Howell Mtn., and down "new" Howell Mtn. instead of Ink Grade - this is the K-ville double route and boy is that downhill fun!!

[SadieKate]

FUN descent if you go the other way (UP "old" Howell Mtn., and down "new" Howell Mtn. instead of Ink Grade - this is the K-ville double route and boy is that downhill fun!!

Nope, I'm not that stupid. The boat launch on the other side of the lake if probably the same as the picnic area. You get some boat traffic going up 128.

[SadieKate]

Okey-doke.

Here is the loop I recommended (35 miles) from St. Helena with maillotpois' recommended descent of Howell Mtn. I like this idea because it isn't as fast and furious as Deer Park and it keeps you off the Silverado Trail as much as possible.
http://www.routeslip.com/map.php?map=3251

Here is the 54 mile loop Bubba and I will probably ride this weekend. We may see you out there as much of it overlaps. We can evaluate MP's Howell Mtn recommendation also.
http://www.routeslip.com/map.php?map=3249

[deedolce]

This is awesome! Thanks everyone, and thanks Sk for making a routeslip (that's new! How cool)

I'm glad we're going to go down Howell Mtn, because both my friend and I are squeamish with downhills. I actually enjoy going uphill alot, although I don't really have the legs, and at the top, I'm always, 'DANG! I forgot about the down part....' and hit the brakes. I don't mind rolling hills, where you know you're going to get partway up the next hill, but I'd gladly do without downhills if I could help it!

I ride a blue Specialized Dolce Elite. Let's just say I get passed alot on the road! But I really enjoy riding. Never been out for a TT, but I have friends who have. lol.

[SadieKate]

A forgot to mark the left turn onto Pope Street right at the beginning. The map was right but the directions didn't note this turn. Sorry.

http://www.routeslip.com/map.php?map=3251&