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  1. #1
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    My perspective - if you read the post was from the of the pack. I lay no claims to the front.

    The group that rode with me from lunch to Shady Ridge was Audrey, Tracey, Sylvia, Judy and Wayne. We were met by CJBruin at Laguna Canyon and Alton but he rode ahead. 2 other riders were caught and we finally caught you and Brandy at Quail Hill just before Shady Canyon but we had to stop/slow down for everyone to catch up and you guys rode ahead. We met again just at the entrance to the bike trail. I didn't know what you were doing. I rode up and you passed me.

    I Understand you and Brandy are new riders and not acquainted with group riding. I do suggest you come out some time and ride with one of the established OC clubs like OCRR, BCI or OCW. A route slip is posted and everyone goes on their own. No one expects the ride to be swept (unless specifically listed as "no drop" but everyone knows that means "if you can keep up") but this ride was advertised as NO DROP. A number of people drove from all over to participate and were not, unlike club riders, familiar with the area. Someone had to stay back and make sure everyone found the route. Had everyone done this ride before, I wouldn't have worried.

    For me this was not a popularity contest. I could care less and maybe that's where the animosity comes from. I'm not in any way trying to steal anyone's thunder. For me it was a chance to do another ride with the great gals I met at TE and help prepare myself for Cool Breeze. I also just wanted everyone to be safe and happy. Nothing else. Sorry. That's it.

    BTW Wayne is a nice guy. You really should not disparage him. Me? I'm the first to make fun of myself. But Wayne came out to support us and he was very kind to give up part of his day to assist with the ride. It's just his nature to be kind and helpful. Also thanks go out to all that helped. I know Extort and Jchen and CJBruin and Cali's husband because they hung out back at times but thanks to everyone else who helped and I didn't know.

    PSS: I was not shooing you off. I don't much talk during riding especially in groups. Once we spaced out and were riding in 2 and 3's I was OK. The group was very large and all over the road especially up Harvard which makes me nervous. As a former board member of BCI I'm all too aware of the complaints bike clubs get from motorists. Plus a number of years ago I had a very bad crash. I suffered a head injury and fractured collarbone. You didn't know that. But when in large groups of riders I don't know I'm being observant and wary - that may seem standoffish. I know I was alittle "rule nazi" at first and actually got into it with Extort when I complained about some of the riders being out in the road taking photos while cars came by. Sorry - just too many friends have been injuried while riding by their own negligence and by cars. It was just a ride. Everyone had good time. Everyone finished and everyone was safe. Geez, need to stop being so sensitive. Personally, I just don't get it.
    BCIpam - Nature Girl

  2. #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcipam
    My perspective - if you read the post was from the of the pack. I lay no claims to the front.

    The group that rode with me from lunch to Shady Ridge was Audrey, Tracey, Sylvia, Judy and Wayne. We were met by CJBruin at Laguna Canyon and Alton but he rode ahead. 2 other riders were caught and we finally caught you and Brandy at Quail Hill just before Shady Canyon but we had to stop/slow down for everyone to catch up and you guys rode ahead. We met again just at the entrance to the bike trail. I rode up and you passed me.

    I Understand you and Brandy are new riders and not acquainted with group riding. I do suggest you come out some time and ride with one of the established OC clubs like OCRR, BCI or OCW. A route slip is posted and everyone goes on their own. No one expects the ride to be swept (unless specifically listed as "no drop" but everyone knows that means "if you can keep up") but this ride was advertised as NO DROP. A number of people drove from all over to participate and were not, unlike club riders, familiar with the area. Someone had to stay back and make sure everyone found the route. Had everyone done this ride before, I wouldn't have worried.

    For me this was not a popularity contest. I could care less and maybe that's where the animosity comes from. I'm not in any way trying to steal anyone's thunder. For me it was a chance to do another ride with the great gals I met at TE and help prepare myself for Cool Breeze. I also just wanted everyone to be safe and happy. Nothing else. Sorry. That's it.

    PS: Wayne is a nice guy. You really should not disparage him. Me? I'm the first to make fun of myself. But Wayne came out to support us and he was very kind to give up part of his day to assist with the ride. Also thanks go out to all that helped. I know Extort and Jchen and CJBruin and Cali's husband because they hung out back at times but thanks to everyone else who helped and I didn't know.
    I'm really not interested in participating in group rides with established bike clubs, but thank you for the recommendation.

    The popularity contest comment was coming from your statement about ALLLL the pictures posted of Brandy and myself.

    It was posted as a no drop and it was completed as a no drop. Although there wasn't one or two specific people designated as sweeps, there was always someone heading back down the hills to make sure everyone was ok.

    I'm not disparaging Wayne. He did seem like a nice guy and I'm sure he is. Maybe I could've talked to him a bit if I didn't continue to get shoo'd. As I said in my previous post, I'm sure all of his assitance was greatly appreciated. It's great he came out for the ride, but you need to understand we didn't ask for him to "give up part of his day to support us". He was welcome whether he had plans to assist or not.
    ~~Tiffanie~~

    Your biggest challenge isn't someone else.
    It's the ache in your lungs and the burning in your legs and the voice inside that yells "CAN'T".
    But you don't listen. You just push harder.
    And then you hear the voice whisper "CAN".
    And you discover that the person you thought you were is no match for the one you really are.
    Author Unknown

  3. #3
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    Huh it was to let everyone know there were photos posted of you and Brandy and Cali and Audrey... etc all the folks from TE. People like to see photos. I know I do.

    Most of the first photos are of you and Cali and Brandy. Somehow somewhere along the line someone took photos of the back of the group so they got my big fat rear and posted it on page 6. Thank you whoever that was! Much appreciated! Now please take it down?!?!
    You also start to see Audrey, Tracy and Judy about that time. That's all.

    PS: I would bet had you rode back to speak with Wayne - who was back with Tracey and Judy and who else, he didnt ride with me much of the time, he wouldn't have shoo'd you away. He likes speaking with the ladies! One reason he likes to help (well that and he's good natured).
    BCIpam - Nature Girl

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcipam
    Most of the first photos are of you and Cali and Brandy. Somehow somewhere along the line someone took photos of the back of the group so they got my big fat rear and posted it on page 6. Thank you whoever that was! Much appreciated! Now please take it down?!?!
    You also start to see Audrey, Tracy and Judy about that time. That's all.
    Hello, new poster here. I apologize for posting that photo in question. It has been removed.
    I also admit I took many, many more photos of people I already knew and neglected a few others I did not know. I will do my best to include everyone fairly in future rides.

    Take care,
    roadfix

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadfix
    Hello, new poster here. I apologize for posting that photo in question. It has been removed.
    I also admit I took many, many more photos of people I already knew and neglected a few others I did not know. I will do my best to include everyone fairly in future rides.

    Take care,
    roadfix
    can ya wait til I lose 10 more pounds please

  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadfix
    Hello, new poster here. I apologize for posting that photo in question. It has been removed.
    I also admit I took many, many more photos of people I already knew and neglected a few others I did not know. I will do my best to include everyone fairly in future rides.

    Take care,
    roadfix
    Thank you kindly. This old lady appreciates it very much!!!!
    BCIpam - Nature Girl

 

 

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