Quote Originally Posted by tulip
I also don't understand why some folks assume that the testing must be flawed just because it's carried out in Europe
I can't speak for others but, personally, my problem is with the specific lab, not the country in which that lab is located. I cannot understand why they continue to have tests carried out in the lab that has ties to L'Equipe. This lab has leaked information to the press before (the Lance hoopla), and it was concern for that happening again that led the UCI and Phonak to make this public before the B test was processed.

Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit
If Ivan and Jan had any way to prove they never associated with Fuentes, they would have come forward a long time ago... With a DNA sample to prove none of the blood bags are theirs. Just stick a Q-tip in your mouth, there you go.
Yeah, this bothers me, too. Though it also bothers me that halfway through the tour, the Spanish police had still not given any documentation of their findings to Ulrich's lawyers. The issue in their cases wasn't blood samples, it was Fuentes' hand-written and coded notes that seemed to implicate them. I haven't seen anymore news reports on this. Does anyone know whether Ivan or Jan have gotten full disclosure of the documentation to be able to put together a defense?

If and when Floyd's B test comes back positive, I truly hope that he'll be allowed the opportunity to try and prove that whatever imbalance there might be is naturally ocurring. I also hope that whatever defense any of these cyclists puts together won't turn into the circus that Tyler Hamilton's did.