This looks bad for Floyd.......

[Raindrop]

Exactly as the preceding posts indicated. The European press and the bicycling community at large tends to hate American cyclists. For that reason alone I await further results. Publishing this type of press is like publishing only FOX news reports.

[Bad JuJu]

I tend to go with the concept favored by our justice system (at least nominally): innocent until proven guilty--emphasis on the word "proven."

[alpinerabbit]

Exactly as the preceding posts indicated. The European press and the bicycling community at large tends to hate American cyclists. For that reason alone I await further results. Publishing this type of press is like publishing only FOX news reports.

Oh please.... stop that, everyone. I've seen it in the other Floyd&Doping threads, and IMHO, it's offensive to non-USAnians.

If your patriotism has been scratched, that has nothing to do with Europeans vs. Americans.

Honestly... most people like Floyd, many people admire Lance. Do you think half the cyclists I saw on the last day of the tour were wearing Phonak gear out of Anti-Americanism?

I'd love to see him get off the hook but it's just so unlikely.

[Kalidurga]

If your patriotism has been scratched, that has nothing to do with Europeans vs. Americans.

I agree with you there, I think a bit too much is made of this angle.

I'd love to see him get off the hook but it's just so unlikely.

Unfortunately, you may be right. But we don't know that yet. I'm still waiting to see what not only Landis, but also Ulrich and Basso, come forth with to counter these accusations. There's a long way to go before any of this is proved either positively or negatively.

[Triskeliongirl]

I *hope* its not true, but this report just made me lose my hope. When I thought the only problem was the RATIO of Test to Epi, I thought there was hope, lots of good reasons why it may be so. But, if they really have mass spec data suggesting the testosterone was synthetic, it does look bad. I agree, I would rather hear it from the UCT, but so far in this matter all that has emerged first in the popular press FIRST, i.e. there is a rider with a failed A test, the rider is Floyd, etc. is true, so I thought folks might find this latest report interesting. And it did come from a cycling website, not the popular press. Does anyone know (I really don't) that cyclingnews.com in any less reliable than the other cycling websites like velonews and eurosport? Of course, I believe its innocent until proven guilty, but this information, if accurate, does not look hopeful IMHO.

[alpinerabbit]

I'm still waiting to see what not only Landis, but also Ulrich and Basso, come forth with to counter these accusations.

Absolutely not only Floyd.

If Ivan and Jan had any way to prove they never associated with Fuentes, they would have come forward a long time ago... With a DNA sample to prove none of the blood bags are theirs. Just stick a Q-tip in your mouth, there you go.

I am pretty sure that beautiful Ivan (my favorite)'s career is OVER. Ullrich too - he is too old to survive a 2 year suspension. (They are talking about making it 4 years)

See, no anti-American feelings. They get caught, too bad for them, bye bye.

[alpinerabbit]

Translation:

"Of course my list is shorter: it contains only those who are NOTeligible."

#1 says "doping idiot 2006"

[crazycanuck]

I have to say i agree with Alpinerabbit-I was waiting for someone overseas to pipe up & say something before i jumped in....

(I understand what you're on about-Trying being Canadian where everyone reminds you about Ben Johnson )

c

[tulip]

I'm with alpinerabbit, too. Floyd was a big hit during the Tour, in Europe (even in France, <GASP>!)

I don't understand all the science; I doubt that many of us do. I also don't understand why some folks assume that the testing must be flawed just because it's carried out in Europe (where the Tour takes place, remember?)