Quote Originally Posted by velogirl
Hey Madison Girl, the question you haven't answered is have you actually flatted with the Stans?

I run tubeless without Stans (my Kenda sponsor says not to run the Stans -- it ruins the tires). Of course, that means a traditional flat change (and as you know, tubeless are a butch to get on & off the rim).
Nope I haven't flatted yet. But for my friends who have flatted, the stans held up pretty well. It is almost amazing what that stuff can do (provided that you don't have a huge tear in your tire) I know there are a few pros (like Mary M.) that run stans with their Kenda tires as well as many people I race with that have used this set up. So that is why I went with the Stans even though Kenda said not to.

I haven't had a problem getting my Karmas on and off the rim. It is actually much easier than the taking the stock tubeless Michelin tires (which had tubes in them) that came with my Trek Fuel EX 9 on and off the rim. The fit was so tight that I couldn't do it....When I went in for a fitting and needed to put a slick on, I had the guys in the shop take that tire off and on for me. It took them 10 minutes to get that tire off and 10+ to get it on (and this is a high end, well experienced shop....not the typical LBS)....and they had to used brute force with one of those salad tong tire tools. So I decided to drop the tubes, buy the Karmas and use the stans. So far so good...so we will see!