Red Hot - if you can do the Ojai ride, my rides will be tame. I'm trying to keep the distance around 40 miles but would like to push it up to 50. I'm also trying to keep the route as flat as possible but may add a hill or two next time if the weather is nice. If hot, it will be a flat and easy route. The pace last ride was very casual. This is a get-together ride, not a club ride. Lots of stops to regroup and check out the scenary. And I would definitely welcome a Ventura ride. I love the area. Cool Breeze is my favorite century!