So I think I will get a Cambium after all. After riding with it once, I tried a Specialized saddle (I think a Ruby) on a 4 hour gravel ride and I was very uncomfortable. Today I rode nearly 5 hours and I would have liked to lower the nose a little more, but the seat post won't allow me to do so. I will get the version with the cutout. The one thing I am trying to figure out is whether to get the C17 or the C17S, which supposedly is for women, and has a shorter nose. Brooks-connoisseurs: any opinions on the "S" type saddles?