Thanks! I did like the club from saturday better, first of all they were much friendlier people, who were riding safer ( at least to me it seemed this way) Yes they did a shorter ride, but thats why you move up to B level if you feel stronger. I forgot to mention that on saturday one mile to the end my speedplay cleat came off, and I had to ride with one foot and i managed not to fall :-) YEY !!! Also, my but a little sore, but I see it as a little reward of a hard work. Thanks Lise!