I've done lots of searches trying to find comparisons of the two and terms like "relaxed" or "aggressive" are thrown around a lot but without any real explanation. I've got the geometry for both bikes in the Elite Compact model for this year pulled up and they just look so similar. We're talking in mm here, so how big of a difference can it really make? The Amira frame is FACT8r carbon and the Ruby is listed as 10r, but other than that I don't see a whole lot of difference. Can't you move spacers around to get your bars higher or lower in relation to your saddle to change the feel? And isn't a great fitter going to make the bike fit me and my body the best they can anyways?

I think I'm getting hung up in the marketing terms. I know that I want to do at least one century ride, and honestly if my family doesn't stop talking to me because I'm trying to get them to help with my fundraising, I might like to do the Bike MS every year. But on a daily basis, I want to go out and blaze 25-30 miles, not ride a long slow 100. I don't want to suffer through this MS event if I go with the Amira because it's a "racing" bike but I don't want to sacrifice my daily riding preference either by getting something "plush" or "relaxed". Are these just adjectives they are throwing around or do they really mean anything?

I'm doubting myself a little now to and think I need to go back and test ride again, I think all of them were worlds above current bike and I might have gotten distracted by that. Well, and a *small* case of lust over things above my price range. I want the Ultegra group, but my 105's are just fine for me and there is no justified reason for me to spend that much more right now on a slightly lighter frame, internal cable routing and a better gruppo.