I can't have one shred of padding in my gloves. Somehow, there's a lot of people who think more padding=better. I found a pair of Botranger gloves that fit the bill, they never go on sale, but after a year or so of increasing hand pain, buying these gloves plus going up a size cured the problem. I have 4-5 pairs, as I just can't wear anything else. I threw out all of my Terry gloves.