XelhaI, I know exactly what you mean. I have raced 24 hour MTB races and I do rides up to 10 hrs at a time and none of the regular creams will do it for me on the hard or long stuff either Give Endur-It chamois cream a try. Since I started using it on long rides or races all the issues with chafing are gone Okoole stuff is another choice, works on long rides but is very greasy, stains and don’t really care for the smell.