Hey thanks for links!

My brother has that book - it sits on his coffee table and mocks me
I'll have to take a closer look at it the next time I'm round and try and pick out a climb to aim for.

That list is really useful, I'm in the midlands so I can check out the ones that are closest to me by car first.

Hardknott Pass looks like a killer You can really get a sense of how tough it is by the blokes upfront struggling out of the saddle, and not to mention all the people pushing their bikes up

I still think California looks prettier than England tho!