I've got a pair of these light PI gloves, but I need something a little warmer for these cold starts. My fingers hurt soooooo much Saturday morning!

Waterproof is not so much of an issue. If it's cold and wet and I can't skip another workout, then I'll run rather than get the bike all nasty and gritty and have to wash it in ice-cold water when it's 40° outside.

What is more of an issue for me is my stereotypically feminine thumb placement. Small men's gloves (or gloves that are labeled as "women's" when they're the same shape as men's) just don't work for me, unless the manufacture is more neutral, like Held moto gloves.

Winter gloves of any kind are a struggle for me, trying to find a good balance between warmth, grip and feel. If they're slippery, so stiff I have a hard time closing my hand, or so bulky I have trouble reaching the levers with my short fingers, I usually wind up going for less warmth. Then I come by poor grip honestly, because my fingers are numb.

Recommendations?