Does anyone have these tights? I am going to call TE and ask a few questions about them, but curious to hear what how others have liked them, or not. I note nothing in the description that indicates thermal properties however...which is why I am going to call them. If they are not warm they are not worth the cost to me. I want something more than a wind-breaker for my legs.

I have the idea that Shebeest chamois is thinner than PI, is this correct?

I would love bib-tights, but am not about to pull the trigger on that price until I see how much I will actually ride in freezing temps.

I do like the PI AmFib tights, they appear to be warm and they have the same chamois that my other PI shorts/bibs have - I know it works for me.

The AmFib tights are more expensive, but I do get cold pretty easily these days without all of that insulation my body used to have... My existing shorts are starting the show the wear from constant use, so it would be good to have tights with a chamois so I can switch things out.