I bought my Ruby on craigslist when it had 100 miles on it. (A guy had bought it for his wife as a first bike.... and she never rode it.) It came with a Specialized Dolce saddle - 155. I have never had a problem with that saddle from day one. In fact, I bought another one for my Bike Friday because the one that came with the Friday hurt so bad I almost could not pee when I got off of it. It is 2760 miles later on the Ruby! I never had to 'toughen up' and I don't use cream. I did sit on a Ruby saddle at a bike store and it seemed harder and not as comfortable to me.