Quote Originally Posted by tulip View Post
Just a thought--when I lived in DC, most of my riding was urban. I certainly count those miles. Miles is miles is miles, and time in the saddle is time in the saddle. You might not get your heart rate up for a consistently long time, but they are still miles. I don't consider my urban rides junk miles, just different miles. I can add somn bikinge sprints and work on my bike handling.
I was careless in my " don't count the urban miles" comment. They certainly do add distance to the ride, but since the only access out I have has a stop sign every block for the first 4 miles (lots of opportunities to unclip) and several stop lights in the next three miles, I use those portions of the ride as a separate laps and consider it a warm up and cool down. Its the long stretches once I get out that I count as speed or cadence miles and use it in logging my personal aatats and goals.

Urban riding is a whole different animal than out in the country fields and texas prairie riding.