Thanks guys for the info. Its always a bit iffy for me signing up for rides because I never know whether my other half will have to dash off on a trip (except the LRRH because Ive told him he will be toast if he goes away and I miss that).

Having said that I think I might sign up for the 50k and take my chances that he will be around.

V thanks for the stats but Im afraid as I still havent hooked up my new computer with altitude gain I have no idea if those stats should scare me or not.

Perhaps I should be changing my name to cluelesshawk.