I've got a 130 mm stem on it, a setback seatpost and the seat all the way back. And I'd still like more setback.

I adore the flamer, but I wish it had a 73 degree seat angle and a longer top tube and that it didnt throw me off it periodically and eat up wheels.

but I haven't found a better frame than it at a price I can afford, so the surly will do got a couple replacement owners for it lined up though.