Thanks Tulip!
I have ridden all the bikes available at local shops.
I have been out at the local shops riding bikes and have narrowed it down to those two basically because it is what is available in my area. I am in Ventura, CA . It is hilly. Elevation on a basic 15 mile ride i do is 700ft. The local group rides have about 800ft gain. I am open to other bikes, however, i just havent found one i like.