Hi all... is anyone using a Toupe instead of a Ruby? Is there much of a difference? My partner just got a 143 Toupe - I don't know if it's a year model thing but it has less of 'tab' on the end, more actual nose, the cutout doesn't look much different than the Ruby, it's lighter, flatter and even looks a tad narrower - as if maybe it flares down slightly sooner.

I'd been wondering if I should try a 155 Ruby as I was still being bitten on the 143 - sitbones 'feel' as if they're being supported but the tissue in front was still getting chafed. Thinking is maybe a 155 Toupe would perhaps fit better than a Ruby.

Btw, sitbones 'supposedly' measured just under 120 (I think) - again, 'supposedly' the 143 'should' fit, but doesn't? or is it possible the saddle I tried was broken in - last person who used it put a lot of miles on it but it seems to be in good shape - but what do I know anymore.. sigh

I'm currently trying a SSM Glamour Aspide Arrowhead - 150mm - don't love the cutout but it was tolerable until this past week - bit me badly on the left so now I hate the damn thing!! Didn't like the flat profile anyway. I love that Specialized saddles dip down a bit in the middle - gives my 'girly bits' somewhere to reside :)

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I do tend to ride down in the drops a lot, my frame's fairly aggressive (Pinarello FP3) and my hips naturally rotate so that I sort of 'lie' on the saddle - definitely don't sit upright very much. But the tissue to the front of my sitbones (just outside the labia) get murdered. I must be too 'poofy' but can't do much about that. (the things we can admit to here)

thank you all... and a BIG THANK YOU to Kermit, who is forever tolerant of me!!! :)))

namaste,
vness