I ran an 8K Turkey Trot today. The temp was 19F, windchill -6 (if you live somewhere warm and don't know what windchill is...well, I'm just jealous). As soon as I stopped running and walked back to my car, my fingers nearly froze off. I was wearing the thin base gloves I usually wear, covered with Patagonia wind-stopper gloves. Pretty heavy duty, and they felt like paper bags. Is it just too damned cold to be outside, anyways, or would some of those lobster claw gloves have made a difference? I mean, especially with riding, where my hands are out there on the frontline. I want to ride this winter, but I don't want to sacrifice digits. Experiences?