Quote Originally Posted by redrhodie View Post
My saddles are 2.5 inches above my bars (measured from bar tops).

edit, I ride for fun, commuting, and sanity (it's debatable if that part's working), and yes, they're drop bars.
You know, I just went out and made my saddle even with my bars. I swear, if this has been my problem all along...

I have been through so many stems it isn't even funny. I may try even lower, since hearing from you. Thanks for the input!