Spinsugar, how's the rawland's frame working for you? I remember you posting before about the top tube being too long - that's one short stem you have on there.

I still want a rawland's frame, however after seeing both of those luna's... They're gorgeous! especially Tulip's, but I love red.

Here's my flaming surly pacer. It's my commute, around town, and mild off road bike: