Yellow - I am glad someone is going to miss winter when it is gone - no one around here is going to. We have all the snow and no mountains to go w/ it

Oak - that trigger point book looks really good! for more things than just running. I use trigger points to get rid of tension headaches.
Where in ND did you used to live?
I am going to research ladder intervals - I think I would like those too.

Urlea - I drove past an out door runner last night (either a friend of mine or a coworker - couldn't tell because of the face mask and they are built the same) He was running on the street - I don't know how he did it. It was compacted snow broken up over ice. I could see his feet slipping. Definately NOT for me! I am too old to have bones heal quickly and properly

I DID it I got my 6 mile run done. Using the rolling pin on my calves did the trick - I was able to run faster for longer. I ran on the tread mill for 3 miles then needed a bathroom break - switched to a better treadmill when it opened up and did 2.5 on it and needed another br break. I finished the last .5 on the track. I did the 6 miles 7 minutes faster than last week. I was able to hold a 12 min mile for 5 miles. I weenied out a little on the last mile but still did it in about 12.5. The first 4 wern't bad at all, #5 was a little tougher, I had to dig inside to get 6 done - that is why I switched to the track - better scenery

Not fast by any means but faster than I was doing. Maybe there is hope for me after all. All I am aspiring to is a 10 min mile - I would be very happy w/ that but I have a long ways to go!

I got up and swam this morning - because it was less than 10 hours since I ran, I weenied out and wore zoomer fins to baby my legs. but it was all good - I still got in and "got 'er done!"