Quote Originally Posted by Irulan View Post
Camping stove, layers, look at the stars and then go to bed. Cooking on fire is dirty, ineffecient, and wrecks your pots

I detest campfires, and here's why
destructive - once you get out of developed campground, people do incredibly destructive things in the name of having a fire. Multiple fire rings, stripping a forest of down fall, leaving their garbage in it. Few people put fire out correctly.

Who here has ever heard the term "white man fire"? Most people don't know how to build a small utilitarian fire. They think bigger is better. You can cook on a small fire better than a big one.

If you are depending on a fire for warmth, you haven't brought the right kind of clothes and gear. Former snow camper here, I've camped in tents down into the zeros.
I agree 100% with you. We have camped/backpacked in all sorts of temps. Once the sun goes down enjoy the sky. It is spectacular. There is no need for a fire. Here in CO durring the summer when camping, especially at elevation the temps can drop to the 20-30s and all we have to do is put an extra layer on and a hat and we are fine.