Aicabsolut - thanks for great ideas. I didn't think of a crash replacement program. I just e-mailed my friend that sold me my Ruby,(sadly, she recently closed her bike shop, but now works for another Specialized dealer). DH has been searching his bike forums re Calfee/RR Velo info - some fellow said that Calfee farms out some of their repairs to Joe's Bicycle Painting, ( I would guess the cosmetic ones) and some other guy said that RR Velo does most of the repairs for Joe's bicycle painting. The businesses are all in the same vicinity, so it sounds plausible. I don't know if I am so skilled that I would notice the difference in my repaired seat stay vs the original side. It may help that I only weigh 104 lbs, so it's not like my frame takes lots of stress from my weight. Calfee said they could repair the seat stay. I would love to have a spare repaired frame to turn into a dedicated TT bike! I'm getting the frame stripped of all parts tomorrow, and hoping my mechanic doesn't find any more damages I haven't noticed! Thanks for your input! I'll post what happens with my frame! Tokie