OK, I have been sifting through the search function on TE about Brooks. I'm thinking about trying one in my saddle hunt. Couple questions that don't jump off the page at me in the thread sifting...

The mens B17 is slightly narrower, and longer than the womens, the B17 S (s for short).

I believe it was BleeckerSt Girl who gave me the tip that the women's short version does not work so well for some ladies, even though it's suppose to be a ladies saddle. The shorter length is an issue? From what I read, this is due to less adjustability with sliding rails back and forth. OK, that makes sense if you need that option, more room.

Is there any other reason besides adjustment factors that the ladies short version is not (for lack of a better word, sorry) as good as the mens version?

My last hesitation is that I read comments that a Brooks was "ok" as long as your riding position was more upright. In the drops, or more aero bikes, it was too much pressure on lady bits. My road bike seat and bars are about level. I ride both semi-aero on the hoods, and aero in the drops.

Good ole Brooks has been around for a long time on all sorts of bikes. Road race bikes included, and without cutouts. Maybe that part is simply preference?

Any advice between the two saddles? btw, my sitz bones are 140ish dead center on the Specialized butt-o-meter... I re-did my butt again in the home kids Playdough and my dead center measurement is 130/140ish, outside marks are 180/190... I really had to squish down hard for my butt bones to show, thus some of the outside marks I would say are over-exaggerated.

Thanks!