Okay guys after all your post, I ended buying 2008 Jamis ventura Race 48. It maneuver very well. I got all the component I wanted (carbon seat post and 105 shimano) ~1100. Love the color, love the way it rides. I am quite happy. You can get it online for $999. I am going to pick it up tomorrow and see how it goes. Will post. But thanks for all the post.