Quote Originally Posted by elk View Post
let's talk about me a little longer...

Lisa, Liza et al ;look at these and tell me if you think these will help...(I'm on the hunt for shims)

http://www.modolo.com/1_road_handlebars_temp.php?id=9
I can't quite decipher the wording of their description:
"Five-stars comfort introduced in 1998: higher raise for "Gran Fondo" allowes a very comfortable rest-giving position, that is extremely appreciated especially in the long distance races and a very short shape "Venus" than decrease to 12 mm. the brake-lever distance. "

HUH???? Very confusing.

Compare that to Salsa's helpful descriptions of their bars, where they give exact measurements...including both REACH and DROP distances:
http://www.salsacycles.com/handlebars.html