It is nice to know that I am not the only one with this problem. I always hate to shop for pants because I can never find any that fit. If they fit nice in the thighs then they are way to big in the waist area. I have tried some mens and they fit okay, not great. I may have to try the brand Knott mentioned. I do appreciate the fact that my megga legs can keep me moving at a pretty good speed on my bike.