nuthatch writes"anyone else here feel like they are sliding off the saddle and puting too much weight on their arms when their saddle is not tipped slightly up at the nose? .....I'm riding a Brooks B-17 (still very ouchie at 400 miles!) and a Selle Italia XO, so it must be me, not the saddles."

ah the elusive yet hard to acheive saddle/shorts/angle/height/weight balance kinda like balance between work/home/play ;-)

I *just* got a Sella Italia Womens saddle weeks before the AIDS Ride (I know, I know, don't change ANYTHING before a big ride) and it's very comfy.

If you look at your bike from the side is your seat parallel with the handlebars or even higher? That puts more weight on your arms but is more aero dynamic. My bike seat looks slightly lower than the bars, more upright position which is not just yanking the seatpost up, there's the whole stem ring thingies bit (someone more technical please help).

Then there's seat angle, again on the ride about the 3rd day i was feeling a tad bit smooshed there. Thanks Spazz who text messaged me (ain't technology grand folks?) to have the nose of the saddle tilted down by the fabulous volunteer bike techs from Cannondale. Visualy it's imperceptable but that teensy tiny itsy bitsy bit made all the difference, I feel fine.

I don't like to feel as if the saddle is tilted forward because I spin so like to slide my butt back when I climb instead of stand. The mechanics even asked me about that, the adjustment is almost imperceptable that way.