Even Police can be crazy drivers

[Grog]

I think I might have been unclear as my point is closer to Eden's. But I also think there might have been boneheads on both sides of this accident.

I don't say that the cyclists were going too fast.

I say that it's not a good idea - and it's even an illegal one - to organize and/or partake in a road race without the proper conditions, i.e. closed or partially closed roads, signs, traffic control, etc. It's illegal for cars and it most likely is for bikes as well. I wish someone from Arizona could explain, but it seems like the Shootout "group bike rides" are actually race-style, very-fast peloton riding not quite unlike the event that cost a young man his life in an urban setting recently. We're not talking about a disciplined-double-paceline ride.

http://www.ride-strong.com/shootout-...808-tucson-az/

I have read the whole report and my understanding - but I am not 100% sure - is NOT that the police car passed the peloton and then stopped in front of them. I think he might have been coming from the other direction and stopped in their way, facing the peloton. I might be mistaken. The roads mentioned are not familiar to me at all, obviously, so I got a little lost.

The reckless behaviour is not so much speed-related but peloton-related.