Was hoping for some input/direction. I'm working with my LBS on a good touring bike. I'm 4 11 & 1/2 so will need a smaller frame. I thought about upgrading my 10 yr old Terry Symmetry because I love it, but it's a sports bike and it looks like it would cost as much to upgrade as it would to have them build a true touring bike. They are recommending a Surly Long Haul Trucker frame, which I've gotten mixed reviews on, some concerning the quality of workmanship. If I'm going to invest my savings ($1,000-$1,300 for the whole bike) of course I want something that will last and that I can progress to loaded touring with, my long term goal. Thanks for the help ahead of time. Ruth