Southern, it's interesting that you tried a chamois-less ride. I've been riding with an unpadded tight on my mtb and I've not had any soreness. I'm wondering what it would feel like wearing it while on my road bike.

I believe Terry is going to have an unpadded short for Spring 2008.

As for my New Year's Eve ride, I went back to the state park where I had my bad endo and rode on the trails for an hour or so. It was so nice to have closure for 2007.