I like the specialized body geometry gel gloves because they have padding on the thumb area. Have never tried PI's fingerless gloves, they don't have enough padding for me ie. the thumb area. I do however have a pair of the PI cyclone gloves for colder weather. I like their warmth but wish they had just a little bit more padding or placed differently but none at the thumb area. I did have a pair of Nashbars that I liked, until I accidently threw them in the washer, where the padding was "heat sealed" vs. sewn, it came apart. I always hand wash my gloves.