maybe i should check out clermont sometime-- the I4 ped/cycle overpass at lake mary by the seminole/wekiva trail is the biggest 'hill' i have tackled so far... think the flats of the west orange are generally challenging enough though-- but cant get out as much as i want here in orlando cos of the horrid hotness and humidity right now despite being off work always during the day..

however, it has enabled me to lurk on ebay at home in the aircon and get some cool cycle clothing :-)