Quote Originally Posted by maillotpois View Post
hey starfish -

I know you'll do great, but I wanted to caution you about jumping to conclusions about grade steepness (shasta being harder than hurricane) based on driving. you really can't tell grade steepness based on driving. things often look steeper in the car.
A big ditto to what MP said ! To me, routes always look harder, and hills always appear steeper, when I'm viewing them from a car than when I'm actually riding them.