Sorry mimitabby, I ment at the ride- figuring out who other TE members are. For example, at scrapbooking events all of the people who are on the scrapbooking message board I hang out on way too often wear green ribbons so we can identify each other. Good times, I decided to go with the Trek 5000wsd, way more than I wanted to spend but the 2100's were unavailable.