[QUOTE=ace;114533]Eager to try out some of this advice, I went for a brief (3 m.) ride this afternoon, no orthotics, with the original insert that came with the shoe (the foam pad thing) and thicker socks than I've been wearing. No foot pain!!

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Ace, just wondered how you were going with or without the orthotics? I went to my physio for a bike fit yesterday (cos i've got sore wrists and wanted to make sure i had the setup right, and she specialises in bike stuff being a well-seasoned rider and does "bike prescriptions" isnt that the best term ever ) and during all the measuring and stuff i told her i had orthotics but dont wear them in my bike shoes... and this has been good for me ie no pain.

but... she said i probably should she told me to try it and see how i went. well i had them in yesterday arvo on the ride home, but they werent comfortable. I dont know if this is just cos i'm getting used to them ... and my new position on the bike (she says i ride like a cowboy with my knees turned out and cos i have one really messed up knee i need to straighten them and have them over my foot)

so i'm a bit sore in the knees today from the changed riding position, but since my feet were sore on the way home, just wondered how you got on with the whole orthotics question.