We drove down to Perrysville, IN because there are hills there and did our annual 51 mile loop, except that I did 62 miles because two of us left our water bottles at the Kingman Oasis Ice Cream Shoppe, which added 6 miles, and then we missed a turn and added the other 5. The otehr water bottle leaver had already done 6 extra miles from a previous missed turn and had not eaten enough for the extra miles (especially at the faster, try-to-catch-up pace)... so we had to stop (his shoulders were bugging him, too; a few miles of the route were horrendously bumpy, beat-up-your-body-and-bike miles) and we took long enough they came out in the car to get us... but our "thumbs out for a ride" was interpreted as "thumbs up" so we had to do those last 3 miles anyway (2 of which were very much downhill, the third only a bit uphill...) if you want a ride, don't smile... and speak (Yea, I could have offered a back rub, but it mighta gotten back gto his GF )