Heh - I am a glove junkie, I have one of just about every pair you can name. My faves however are a pair of pearl izumi TdF "limited edition" (whatever that means) that I got a few weeks ago - the gel is actually where you NEED it, and there are small vents in the gel pads - very very comfy. I have a pair of the ones you have and I like them a lot, but there is not enough gel pad in them for my liking and what padding there is isn't where I need it, I use them for shorter rides. My new one's keep my arm from going numb!