Hey swimmers....

[horsemom]

I am with KSH, I breath every two strokes on the right. I will throw in a left side once in a while to see where I am. I came up through the ranks of AAU, YMCA, High School, and then college as a distance swimmer. I have done two ultra open water swims (the length of a local lake at 18 miles, and Cape Cod to Martha's Vineyard) and now do tris. I have just done sprint and xterra, and the longer the swim the better I do. I am heavy on the swimming, but just can't get comfortable bilateral breathing.

Laura

[froglegs]

I have read that breathing only on one side can injure the opposite shoulder. My sister believes this as well, she used to swim competitively and was a left-side breather, and her right shoulder is pretty messed up now. When I started swimming again in Oct, I did too much too quickly and had to back off for a few weeks. My right shoulder was the one that hurt, and I was breathing only on the left side. So at that point I decided I was going to learn how to breathe on my right side as well.... although in a race I'll probably just revert to left-side breathing, since I seem to get more air and less water that way.

[wemoon]

I feel much more comfortable just breathing on my right and breath every 2 strokes. I can breathe on my left and I practice it a little, but I think I am going to up the amount of practice I do on the left. I'm not sure if I care to learn to bilateral breathe. I just think as far as preventing injury and being able to change my breathing for the conditions of the course, it would be beneficial to feel comfortable breathing whichever way I need to.

[bikerHen]

I just added a swimming routine to my life. It's been way more years than I like to think about since I've done any swimming. And was surprised I didn't sink to the bottom on my first swim. I was even more surprised that I really enjoyed my time in the pool.

I am assuming that bilateral breathing is turning your head to the left and then the right? I actually tried that on Thursday, cause I had a sore neck from turning to just the right side. I thought it worked rather well. Since it seems I'm not doing anything to stupid, I guess I'll keep on doing it. Now all I have to do is decide when to breath.

I do have issues with getting water in my ears. Ear plugs don't seem to work for me, I tried a cap and it helped some. I saw something on line that was a type of head band thing that keeps the water out of ears. Anyone have or heard of this? Also any tips on shower products to help with the chlorine smell? bikerHen

[KSH]

Hey Biker Hen.. here's our thread on smelling like chlorine:

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=20463

Congrats on swimming... I hope you continue with it and enjoy it!

[KSH]

I have read that breathing only on one side can injure the opposite shoulder. My sister believes this as well, she used to swim competitively and was a left-side breather, and her right shoulder is pretty messed up now. When I started swimming again in Oct, I did too much too quickly and had to back off for a few weeks. My right shoulder was the one that hurt, and I was breathing only on the left side. So at that point I decided I was going to learn how to breathe on my right side as well.... although in a race I'll probably just revert to left-side breathing, since I seem to get more air and less water that way.

I guess it can if you are swimming 5-7 days a week for 1-2 hours at a time... is that exact? No. My point is this... I think you can injure the opposite shoulder if you swimming A LOT... our workouts... well, my workouts... 3,000-8,000 yards a week for 1-2.5 hours... it's doubtful. I'm not swimming that much.

I have been swimming with only right side breathing for YEARS (22 years)... and my left shoulder isn't injured.

But hey, all bodies are different... right?

[kat_h]

I'm so glad I found this thread. It never even occurred to me to breath on the other side. I'll have to wait a couple of days until I can get to the pool and try it out.

[Wahine]

So the PT point of view on this is that bilateral breathing is better both for form and muscle balance. Unilateral breathing can cause shoulder pain, but it's related to roll. When you breath you roll farther (hopefully) so there is less stress to the shoulder on the breathing side. People tend to roll less to the non-breathing side and then strain their shoulder to get the hand out of the water for the recovery phase of the stroke. If you're a good swimmer and have a good roll to both sides, it's not bad to unilateral breathing. If you have problems with rolling, swimming even short distances unilaterally breathing can be bad.

Personally, I breath every 3 strokes when I race, 4 to 5 strokes when I'm swimming long endurance sets (3 makes me hyperventilate but if I'm swimming 4 I make a point of switching sides periodically), I often do sets to try to stretch my breathing out to every 7 strokes and when I'm swimming above my usual race pace I will often breath 3-2-3-2.

[kelownagirl]

I'm happy to say I seem to feel comfortable breathing (gasping, choking) every 3 strokes. Hopefully it will get easier right? I take in water through my nose sometimes I think....

[skinny_kitty]

Well, I'm new here, but am so incredibly impressed with the information on this thread that I've been talking about it for the past week.

I had a baby (#4) in October, 2006 and started to swim the following January. I hadn't done any serious swimming since I was a teen with a local swim team. In those days, you were told to be like a plank in the water and do a sort of "S" movement with your arms. I only ever breathed on my left side.

Well, doing something when you're a teen and then doing it again in your (late) 30's are two different things: What my body could handle then, it could not handle now -- especially when you add in the shoulder stress associated with nursing a fourth child (all four born in a space of 5 1/2 years).

I had tendonitis in my shoulder and no amount visits to the chiropractor could fix it. It was, of course, my right shoulder -- opposite to my breathing side.

I eventually caved for a shot of cortisone so that I could compete in two sprint tris, but the effects didn't last.

Since joining the masters swimmers, I've learned to roll a lot and breathe every three strokes. I had to scarf down a lot of chlorine (:P) before I could manage to do it well, but it was worth it. Ever since, the shoulder pain is blissfully gone.

So, this is a really long-winded way of saying thanks for discussing this: I'll be sure to breathe every three strokes and roll like a maniac now; especially when sprinting when the temptation to revert back to old ways hits me!

[Bron]

I did 700 meters on the Subaru tri and did it in like 30 min. It was bad...all the bikes were out of transition before me. At least the ones in my wave, at least.

The way I look at it is at least you don't lose time running round like a headless chicken trying to find your bike.......

I breathe on both sides - every three strokes - our teacher at school drummed into us that that was how we were to swim.

[Starfish]

Knot, serious? And you could do sprint tri distance? I bow down in awe. I can put my head in the water and I still struggled.

I think I will start going to swimming in Queen Ann on sundays. You are so welcome to join me!

Seriously, Ed would be a great (and kind) person to talk to about learning a more conventional stroke...a nice man. Boy, if I lived over that way, I would be joining you guys! That was a neat group when I was there; of course, that was a million years ago!

[Starfish]

And on the breathing...

It has been awhile since I was doing regular swim workouts, and have never done a competitive open water swim of any kind. I tend to breathe bilaterally ever other stroke (I guess every 3rd?) during workouts, as a general rule, unless I am specifically working on breathing (then less often). Or, unless I'm really getting fatigued, then just same side, because it is much easier for me.

I agree with Wahine about the roll. I don't know PT stuff, but the roll is so important. I use "off side" breathing as a test of how sloppy or weak my stroke is getting...when breathing to the other side is a lot harder, I know the balance of my stroke has deteriorated.

That said, when I used to race (and I suspect if I ever do a tri), I will just breathe on my one "good" side, because it still is not second nature to just really push hard and well during bilateral breathing.

Oh, and when I used to train in the pool, I used to pyramid sets based on number of breaths per length of pool, until it was no breaths, and then finally a length underwater. These did help me get comfortable with breathing less often.

[alpinerabbit]

you scare me. an entire length diving and 16500 ft climbing.

[Starfish]

you scare me. an entire length diving and 16500 ft climbing.

Oh, AP, thank you! You gave me my first laugh-out-loud for the day. If you met me, you would not be afraid! I'm afraid of everything! And, I haven't done the 16,500' yet!